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this wall. >> i can hear you. >> the time for change has come! chris: is nothing sacred? if there's no big deal on the national debt, with the 2012 republican challenger run on empty? can he or she carry the burden of rejecting big deficit reduction? what about obama, if there's no debt deal, will he have to defend the liberal label next year? the knives are out. should john boehner expect a full-blown mutiny. is eric cantor the number two house republican leading the tea party against their own speaker? finally, family business. michele bachmann's number one in iowa but her family business about become her number one problem. it works to confer gays to straights. will that strike voters as sensible? will it sell on the stump, even among conservatives? hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, "new york" magazine john heilemann, cnn's gloria borger, nbc's kelly o'donnell and "time" magazine's joe klein. first up, narrative has been about trying for a big debt reduction deal this year but the political consequences for barack obama and g.o.p. nominee next year are the real
guys to protect the fat guys and corporate jets and big super rich. you're expendable now, crack thinkers. don't you understand? they play you against the poor and you're skpentable now. let those guys handle it. they got to protect the big guys. >> now know, that is coming from john mccain whose campaign might be compared to custard, except custer's came out better than mccain's did. in 2012 a conservative will be elected so i think that will speak for itself. his his brand was she lacks in 2007 within 2008. mine won the house of representative by record numbers in 2010. >> yeah, but now your brand of conservative is told, get your butts in line. don't get too big for yourself. because you've done your job. you're saving the corporate jet guys. you're closing in making sure to protect the loops holes. now just shut up and let us handle it, we've got movies it watch. thank you judson phillips. thank you for being here with me. >> thank you for having me. >> hosts of the bill press show on sirius radio, gentlemen, it is quite interesting, looks like mr. boehner is trying to get a
a serious big-time compromise. have the tea partiers handed him a huge advantage? has he won the reasonable middle? could barack obama win next year even with a 9.2% jobless rate? it would be tough, but some smart politicos say not impossible. finally, righter than you know. is michelle bachmann too right or just right? with the republican party, which moved right with goldwater, right again with reagan in 1980, and with newt in 1994, be right there for the lady from minnesota? has the hatred of obama made her the perfect champion for a year of attack? i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, "the washington post," bob woodward, the national journalist, jamie tarabay, abc's andrea mitchell and "the chicago tribune"'s clarence page. the nasty unemployment numbers are a psychological problem for the country and a huge political burden for this president. has the tea party's flirtation with default on the national debt handed barack obama a huge win, while the vast middle of the country, the middle that decides elections, see the president as the grownup? take a look at poll num
're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the deficit and debt, going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long term, maybe more than ten years? >> chris, i don't know about more than ten years, but certainly as you know, simpson boles, senator simpson and former chief of staff irskin boles, in their report they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and across the board with all items of expansion. but they said in the near term, meaning the next year of so, we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy, obviously, as we saw today, which will decrease revenues and make the problem worse, not better. so in the short term, i agree with the bowles-simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short term. there's no doubt, however, in the white house yesterday, or thursday -- yesterday -- there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us and it demanded at all of us try to come together and reach an agreement whereby we will certainly over the next 1
that would have included up to a trillion dollars in new revenue. it seems like the republicans talk a big game about solving the nation's problem. but they are really only interested in one thing, that's winning back the white house. mitch mcconnell said this on fox news. >> the most important thing we want to achieve is for president obama to be a one-term president. >> that is true. that's my single most important political goal along with every active republican in the country. >> joining me now, is the independent senator from vermont, senator bernie sanders. senator, thank you for being here tonight. how do you explain the republicans unwillingness to compromise to get the big deal that they said they wanted, to put everything on the table. the president said fine now they back down. >> what they said is they would like everything on the table. so long as it means cuts to social security, medicare, medicaid, the needs of our children, and the environment. all of that is on the table. but if you asked billion airs it start paying a little bit more in taxes or if you do away with loop
planned recess next week for the 4th of july. >> mitch mcconnell making a big deal of inviting the president for a chat with no notice with the knowledge he already had plans. >> the president said he wasn't going to change his plaque plans to meet with mitch mcconnell. >> he also invited the president to hear what would not pass. >> is it logic? the republicans are not big on logic. >> if they don't this time, the full faith and credit of the u.s. will be in peril. >> if we don't do that -- wait, what happens again? >> armageddon. >> armageddon. >> armageddon. >> democrats are saying yes to michele bachmann. >> i'm not surprised by how well michele bachmann has done. she comes across as a real person. >> real human moments. very compelling to voters. >> obama's got some magic. >> with the wink and a hug, she's made the majority of the gop field disappear. >> king james called napoleon and together decided to kill america. they sent the nina, pina, and santa maria to fight. >>> and yes to stephen colbert. >> i'm sorry to say, ladies and gentlemen, we won! [ applause ] >> it's s
of the economy. does that mean we're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the debt and the debt are going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long-term maybe more than ten years? >> well, chris, i don't know about more than ten years. certainly as you know in simpson/bowles, senator simpson and former chief of staff erskine bowles, in their report they posited that we needed to and they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and dealing across the board with all items of expenditure. they said in the near term, meaning the next year or so we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy obviously as we saw today which will decrease revenues and make the problem so in the short term i agree with the bowles/simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short-term. there is no doubt, however, that in the white house yesterday or thursday there was -- that was yesterday, there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us. and it demanded that all of us try to c
. >> the proposal would have budget sate h savings of $500 million. -- $500 billion. also it calls for big changes to medicare and social security. >> i think at the end of the day, what the overwhelming majority of americans are saying, fix this. and if it takes a little compromise from both. >> but the is plan faces a harsh reality. tough procedural obstacles means the proposal won't be ready ahead of the august 2 debt ceiling deadline. and a key block of conservatives is already saying no way. >> we know it's going to hurt job creation. we know it's bad for small businesses. we're not going to go for this type of plan. >> with time running out, harry reid, who is still work on a fall back plan with mitch mcconnell says he's now waiting for a signal from house gop leaders. >> we have a plan to go forward over here, but until we hear from the house of representatives, we really are -- all of our work here would be for not. >> now there is also talk of folding elements of the gang of six plan into this so-called fallback plan being worked out between senators reid and senator mitch mcconnell. but
a lot to talk about. big news over the budget and deficit reduction. president obama is rejecting calls for a short-term hike. he made a rare appearance in the press room. he's challenging them to seize the moment and cut a deal. >> i don't think the american people here sent us here to avoid tough problems. it's, in fact, what drives them nuts about washington. when both parties simply take the path of least resistance. i don't want to do that here. i believe right now, we have a unique opportunity to do something big. to tackle our deficit in a way that forces our government to live within our means. still allows us to invest in that future. >> all right. sounds good. sounds hopeful, it does. maybe something will get done, like everyone is going to come in. less than an hour after the president's invitation, john boehner missed the discussions saying a deal won't pass in the house, if it includes tax increases. he said, i'm happy to discuss the issues at the white house, but the discussions are fruitless until the president recognizes economic and legislative reality. >> that doesn't
that she could catch fire. look, when you start this thing, when you win iowa, if you win iowa big, that thing starts rolling through new hampshire and south carolina, it's over in weeks. i agree 100%. >> how was she going in philadelphia suburbs? how is she going to do in the i-4 corridor and in wisconsin? how is she going to do in new mexico, arizona? i would suggest, with swing voters not well at all. >> there's no doubt if you nominate michele bachmann, it's an enormous risk. the only conditions, i think, under which i believe she could win the presidency, if people say, if they did in 1980, i don't care, i'm taking a chance with this guy because what we got we can't stand, you get 9% or 10% unemployment, two more years, this country is ready for a lot of change. more "morning joe" in a moment. with the hotels.com 48-hour sale, the possibilities are endless. interesting... save up to 50% this tuesday and wednesday only. hotels.com. be smart. book smart.  finally, there's a choice for my patients with an irregular heartbeat called atrial fibrillation, or afib, that's not cause
. they are convincing one another that it is not that big after deal. so right now the white house's big hope and i don't think it is misplace said that if we go to do doom's days on this, the hope is people that get blamed will be the republicans. >> that's option 2. that's default. i've given you two options. >> it's not default if we don't stop sending out the checks. if we keep sending out the checks, it's not default. we didn't default in '95. we just got near to it. >> does the president then say, okay, i'll agree to the republican plan? what's the third option besides default and defeat? how does he force his point of view, which is a reasonable balance, two or three to one, spending cuts to revenue hikes. >> i have no idea. i should say they're talking four or five to one. >> how do we get to there then? >> he can't. on his own we simply cannot. we live in a country, the constitution, the constitution has ultimate power. a lot of people think he could ignore them by asserting constitutional authority, but that is really dependent on the supreme court. >> am i right that it depends on one man, j
. how exciting. >> they match. >> they do match. >> the big news of the day, yesterday, of course, was moody's coming out and saying, listen, we don't expect this to happ happen. the chances are slight this is going to happen. just the chance it may happen, we are going to downgrade america's credit rating. >> we are going to put it on credit watch to downgrade it or we will downgrade it if it happens. first of all, the rating agencies were behind the curve during the whole financial crisis and they took a lot of heat for that. now they are trying to be more proactive. when you have a congress that refuses to address the issue, what do they do? it's not a shocker. it's another symbol of how dysfunctional things are in washington and what the stakes are and how dangerous it is. you know a few people across the globe. >> i like it when mika says it better. >> say international financeer. >> i would think these are trying times for banks across the world. look at ireland a second time. it's spread to italy. we have all heard -- greece, portugal. it's all across europe. it's coming to
is it shows that the united states system is not set up to do big things. when a crisis like this comes up they cannot do a deal that would show stability to the world. >> ronald reagan and tip o'neal made big deals. in the 1990s, bill clinton and the republican congress made big deals. and mika, it's not over yet, but it has gotten to the point already that this is damaging the reputation of the united states the longer it goes, and i think we're talking about it damaging our reputation more every day that the crisis goes on. >> i think both sides would agree with that. after a weekend of meetings resulting in yet another impasse, president obama is canceling two fundraisers today to continue negotiations. senate majority leader harry reid said the talks broke down last night because of the republicans insistence on a short-term deal, and their plan would cut $2.7 trillion over the next ten years. officials say it raises the debt ceiling but no tax increases. and he salaid out his latest solution. >> there will be a two-stage possible. it's not physically possible to do this in one step.
not -- >> if that's the case you want to make, that's a big different case to make. but this is a christian facility. and they take medicaid patients. not necessarily for this procedure or treatment or whatever you call it. >> there's no evidence they were using medicaid payments for reparative therapy. >> she should be asked about this theory. she's a candidate for president. one out of ten americans is gay. she should be asked if she wants to lead a country where at least 10% of us are gay or lesbian, does she believe in this crack pot, bigoted theory that somehow there's something to be repaired in our brothers and sisters and sons and daughters who happen to be born gay? >> we'll have more with paul and ari after the break. we'll talk about the debt showdown. polls numbers the president used in support of his policies. frachkly the president's numbers simply don't add up. we'll show you that. let us know what you think. we're on facebook. follow me on twitter @ anderson cooper. later thousands of protestors in cairo's tahrir square. we'll tell you why they're happening now. but i did. they said
for reelection in 2008. last year in 2010 with a big republican win she raised 13 1/2 million dollars and got 52% of the vote. i don't think he ought to be stressing electability. that one point on the screen not said i think was a good ad. >> sean: interesting. she is doing great in the polls. >> be careful about those ppp polls that's a democrat outfit in north carolina. i'm always dubious about what a ppp says. >> sean: she is leading in iowa, another poll had her second in new hampshire. there's some consistency. pawlenty released his ad. let's look at this. >> a lot of candidates who come to iowa and say the same things. the question is, have they don't it? in a liberal state i reduced spending. took on the government unions and won. appointed a conservative supreme court and passed health care reform the right way. no mandates, no takeovers. if i could do it in minnesota, we can do it in washington. i'm tim pawlenty and i approve this message. >> sean: what did you think? >> i like it. it is a conviction ad. says here's what i have done as governor. puts his experience up anybody else in t
. if you are going to rule out medicare now and say yeah, we are going to make big cuts but rule out medicare. that means democrats are focusing on 10%, discretionary spending that is our investments, r & d, education, infrastructure. the things we need to double and triple down on. the things we can afford to do in trying to catch up with china if we take care of the long-term structural debt on taxes, on health care and these other issues. >> yeah, we talked about the fact our health care system is at least 50% more expensive procedure by procedure than any other place in the world. we have this grip on a lot of the health care sector. we need health care reform. this is obvious. but it's been obvious for years. they don't do it on either side. >> coming up, connecticut governor dannel mall low. >> he's going to yell at you. >> i think he's in for a fight, yeah. yeah. >> mika is mad. she's not putting up with it anymore. >> this is incredible. sexual assault allegations against strauss-kahn. why it's on the verge of collapse. >> he was in yonkers at the time. come on. >>> first, he
a deal, it starts to weaken the white house i guess. >> reporter: a big deal of deficit reduction obviously is feeling very elusive and chances of doing something like that seem to be very slim at this point. in terms of the debt ceiling, they are very much relying on a plan being worked out by senators reed and mcconnell, top democrat and republican in the senate, to move something forward so the senate can take a lead and the house can then follow suit maybe making some changes. i think right now that's the best hope. i do want to tell you looking at the president's schedule today, it's mighty bare. his normal presidential briefing and meetings with senior advisers but certainly there's a lot of room built in there for any sort of communication he needs to do with congress. >> right. there was talk they are working through the weekend so they are doing everything possible to come to an agreement. >> over night too. >> u.s. and libya hosting secret face to face talks since the libyan conflict began four months ago. the point of the weekend meeting was to send a clear message to m
. and corporate america has told mcdonnell and boehner not to budge on issues like $80 billion subsidies for big oil factory farms and weapons peddlers. they've been told don't budge on $100 billion that america lauzs every year on offshore banking that corporations want to take advantage of. what they've been told they can do is decimate social security, decimate medicare, decimate domestic programs, as long as those domestic programs don't benefit corporate america. we know the truth. the truth is ronald reagan, this mythical icon hero of the republicans raised the debt ceiling 17 times. you had george bush the boy who raised the debt ceiling seven times after he squandered $500 billion -- >> but they don't seem to mention that in this last few little few weeks. >> you know what i think -- >> let me ask you, laura. i want to ask you this, though. secretary treasure tim geithner is saying he will step down after the debt ceiling debate is resolved. >> some say this is about making the democratic side look weeker at this point, but i think there will be a deal eventually. there's even talk today
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. you are welcome. now to andy levy. what is coming up on the show, old sport? >> coming up on the big show, a new study shows being a federal worker means you will never die. or did i get that wrong? tune in to find out. and does michelle bacmann suffer from an el i illness that causes her to relive the last five minutes of her life over and over again for weeks at a time? probably not. and an australian muslim awakens to find four bearded men standing over him. i thought i was the only one who had that dream. >> thank you, andy. >> happy moon day, greg. >> excellent. i find it serves to be quite interesting. >> not that moon, greg. july 20th is the anniversary of the biggest scam perpetrated on the american public. >> you mean the moon is actually real? >> no, in fact the moon is real. i am referring to the so-called moon landing which was a huge hoax concocted by the u.s. government and pulled off by the great film director. >> this is where we partways. not only was the moon landing not real, but the moon 1* not real, an op tau cal illusion by nasa to fund the phony moon landing. >
, chrislhayes. rachel maddow is up next. >> any big plans? >> may light off a firework fmplgts they're illegal where you live, i won't tell anyone. >> just between you and me. >> exactly right. >>> thanks for staying with us the next hour. it is the start of a long fourth of july weekend. one of those days where if you are not on vacation already, you sort of feel like a sucker, because it feels like everybody else is on vacation. but even on a sultry friday night in july, heading into a long holiday weekends, there are two outstanding things that happened in american politics today. there is no relationship to what another whatsoever. i won't stremp and try to make one. we're going to do one of these stories and then the other. the first one is this -- >> conservatism is an act of creation and love. a love for a cherished way of life we have inherited and will bequeath to our children. conservatism is the ligation of ideology. we sent our mind to the world. not of the world to our mind. we'll move every mountain. we will meet every challenge and we will strive towards the light for the blosso
, actually, if they know there's a big deal behind it will be quite -- wouldn't they, john heilemann? >> i think so. the time is tough right now. listen to harry reid and mitch mcconnell who know how the senate works and how long it takes to do the following things, to reform medicare and tax reform. they are things that typically can take many months to get done. >> isn't it a surprise? it wasn't a surprise the show started at 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's no surprise we have a deadline. >> to build the legislation is not something that can happen in the span of four or five days. you can't. the key issue is what obama will be wanting to see is the outlines of a deal where he has a good assurance the outlines of the deal can get past once the meat is put on the bones. if that's the case and the markets see that, everything will be fine. whether it's a few days extension or a couple weeks, it's going to take a lot to get to that point. there's no consensus on the house side among house republicans in favor of what the gang of six is doing. as we saw in the film, the video, house democr
that part of big government. final you have oil leases. if we examine end today the number of over shore lease -- if we extended the number of offshore leases it would help balance the budget. when clinton and gingrich worked out their deal, sale of spectrum, radio and cell phones back then was an important part of that revenue. you can shrink government and increase revenues at the same time. >> sean: you are bringing up creative, out of the box ideas at a time when the nation is going bankrupt this is not what they are discussing this is the problem. the president wants to increase taxes by a trillion dollars. you say he's not going to get it. it is not relevant, because that's what he wants. the president wants to gut defense at a time we have three wars going on. he wants to avoid structurally re any entitlement program. he won't give up on obamacare. -- the imaginary savings are based on phony accounting. ridiculous rosey projections flash flood the interest rates go up we lose all the -- projects if the from rates go up we lose all the -- >> he's pointing at a corporate jet while p
ceiling and pass that through the house. by 5, 6, 7 months depending how big the package is the bigger, the better. send it to the senate. the senate has to take it up they will have to pass it and the president will have to sign it. this will give us more time to work the problem and give a revenue neutral tax reform that lowers rates and cleans out a lot of the trash in the code. >> i am angry with republicans in this sense. we don't appear to have their act together. the president is putting his plan in writing on the table. this is frustrating to me. on the very day the house is voting on real substantive kutsz dealing with the foundational issues of our debt problem that would help bring recovery into play why did they give the president the ability to run out with a gang of 6? haehn hang on a second we have a plan and distract the country with what i thought they were focused on democrats were opposing it and we have to stop the measure with the o'connell issue. it's like they are negotiating with themselves and the president hasn't put up a plan. >> one of the members of the gan
she didn't take the stand, we have heard it from nobody. so, it was a big promise from the defense going in that went unfulfilled during this trial. >> fascinating to see the effect of that on the jury, and nbc's kerry sanders as always, thanks to much. >> and coming up, we clear the air on the case that america just can't get enough of. mayhem doesn't announce itself. it doesn't call ahead. mayhem doesn't care if you're on vacation or just remodeled your kitchen or just said "i do." and though mayhem may be a part of life, with an allstate agent, you don't have to live through it alone. are you in good hands? so i took my heartburn pill and some antacids. we're having mexican tonight, so another pill then? unless we eat later, then pill later? if i get a snack now, pill now? skip the snack, pill later... late dinner, pill now? aghh i've got heartburn in my head. [ male announcer ] stop the madness of treating frequent heartburn. it's simple with prilosec otc. one pill a day. twenty-four hours. zero heartburn. no heartburn in the first place. great. >>> some call it a graveyard to
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